http://www.smallarmsreview.com/display.article.cfm?idarticles=2938 Originally chambered for the .45 ACP pistol cartridge, it took a bit of engineering to bring the Tommy Gun up to .30 Carbine specification. N1Rampage. Not that I actually know, since the cartridge is not actually popular around here. The .30-caliber U.S. M1 carbine was arguably the first of the modern class of lightweight personal defense weapons (PDW). Very Low Stock. The main problem with pistols as self defense weapons is that they require much more training to master than shouldered weapons, especially if you want to hit anything beyond 25 yards. One less cartridge type, in exchange for larger quantities of .45 for the SMGs, with the weight penalty of the heavier ammunition. Possibly some 12 gauge as well. They were in National Guard armories up into the 1990’s. The .45 ACP Tommy Gun and its ammunition was already developed, adopted, and in production before this prototype was produced. I know that early Grease Gun have its flaws and thus M3A1 variant was developed: 10 in. You're a bad influence! Auto-Ordnance-Thompson M1 Carbine Paratrooper Rifle | AOM150. Since.45 was already the established standard pistol round, in the regular supply chain and could not be mistaken for the rifle cartridges it is not such a problem. Personally I'd take the M2 for the better range and accuracy. Polyphemus says: June 27, 2020 at 10:31 am. Make Offer. The seller is “arachnosteel” and is located in Summerville, South Carolina. Both were actually 3″ or 76.2mm guns. Commentdocument.getElementById("comment").setAttribute( "id", "a0299c2d1bfd9677f3882c6bd9c5e625" );document.getElementById("a524294bd0").setAttribute( "id", "comment" ); Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. M1 Carbine Owners Manual: M1, M2 & M3 .30 Caliber Carbines. Revolver are generally using headspace/rim method but .30 Carbine is rimless. The rimless .30 Carbine (7.62x33mm) was originally designed to fire a .30 caliber, 110gr full metal jacket bullet at just under 2,000 feet per second. While the M1 Garand rifle and the Thompson submachine gun were named for their respective designers, the M1 Carbine was not named for anyone in … OUT OF STOCK (5) INLAND M1 CARBINE 1945 MODEL .30 CARBINE 15RD PARKERIZED. Same weight the Mkb42h. The Thompson M1 was used victoriously in battles throughout the world, inscribing its place for all ti... Qty available: BACKORDER . The weapon was truly a “just in case” submission to the Army, which was summarily rejected. Although heavy, it probably was accurate. Always interesting to see what’s in the Springfield Armory Museum. Forgive the preaching, but 20 years wearing badge have only re-enforced that belief. M1 Thompson is .45 caliber, full auto, heavy, and short. Interesting. $35.79. OVERVIEW: THOMPSON M1 Our M1 Thompson model is a.45 caliber semi-automatic replica of the most famous American submachine gun of World War II. http://www.patreon.com/ForgottenWeaponsCool Forgotten Weapons Merch! This Thompson gun in .30 cal, select fire albeit from an open bolt might be considered an assault rifle then due to the cartridge as the Mkb42h fired from an open bolt. I presume the Thompson in .30 Carbine didn’t work very well. Reply. Wasn’t another major problem with the Thompson its cost? A proprietary cartridge the .45 Remington-Thompson was developed as a perceived improvement at the time- 1923, but not adopted which had an overall length of 1″ which doesn’t seem right as that’s shorter than the .45Acp, perhaps it means case the length which is more similar to a .30 Carbine. weights are: OUT OF STOCK (0) Thompson TM1C1 M1 Carbine Tanker Semi-Automatic 45 … Same rules apply that you would follow for semi-auto pistol reloading. Auto Ordnance Thompson M1 Carbine Vengeance Rifle | AOM130C1 30 Carbine, Semi-Automatic, 18", Walnut Engraved Stock, Parkerized Finish, 15+1 Rds Hinterland #: 85267 Some early M1917 revolvers did not have a shoulder in the chamber and that caused problems with folks using .45 ACP loose, without half-moon clips. Area Code: 314 . (and really now, Allies? The Thompson Light Rifle was an attempt by the Auto-Ordnance Company to manufacture a light rifle for the United States Armed Forces. The item “Thompson-Center Arms TC Contender 30 Carbine M1 10-inch Pistol Barrel Octagon” is in sale since Sunday, December 16, 2018. CDN$ 27.00 CDN$ 27. it has 18.25″ long barrel and sights scaled up to 400 yards (which might be optimistic) but anyway should be enough as PDW. The TM1 is the semi automatic copy of the famed M1 Thompson of World War II. Polyphemus says: June 27, 2020 at 10:31 am. Roughly you could buy 5 M3’s for the price of one Thompson. In fact after WWII broke out, it was noticed in USA that sub-machine is more useful weapon that it was considered to be. 00. They do have several BSA built Thompson’s in various calibers though. Auto Ordnance Thompson D-Day M1 30 Carbine 18in Brown Semi Automatic Rifle - 15+1 Rounds - Thompson Auto-Ordnance, maker of the famous “Tommy Gun” and other classic firearms throughout history, is proud to introduce the Limited Edition D-Day Series including this limited addition “The Soldier M1 Carbine”. This was commonly done with artillery ammunition, for example the British 77mm HV tank gun was named such to avoid confusion with the US 76mm tank gun ammunition. Here is a.45 caliber semi-automatic version of the world's first and most famous military rifle. This item is in the category “Sporting Goods\Hunting\Gun Parts\Pistol”. by Desert | Nov 1 1984. Comes with Kerr Sling and WWII 3 Mag Pouch Carrier. The stamps used for the Caliber .30 Carbine stocks are also available. © 2020 Forgotten Weapons.Site developed by Cardinal Acres Web Development. Thanks for that link. If the Thompson SMG had been issued in .30 carbine caliber instead of .45 ACP that would have reduced the types of cartridges down to two. A machinist from the age of 17, he worked at […], These Thompsons are all being sold by Morphys on October 30, 2018: Model 1921 (transferrable), Model 1921/28 overstamp (transferrable), and M1A1 (pre-86 dealer sample). MSRP: $1,749.00. On the case mouth, same as any other rimless cartridge. Manufacturer: Auto-Ordnance / Kahr Arms Model: Tanker WWII Thompson M1 Semi-Automatic Carbine Sku: TM1C1 Caliber: .45 ACP Capacity: (1) 20 Round and (1) 30 Round Stick Magazine Barrel: 16.5", Smooth Finish: Army OD Green Cerakote Weight: 11.5 lbs Overall Length: 38" Sight: Blade Front, Fixed Battle Rear Stock: Walnut Fixed Stock and Horizontal Foregrip with Engraved U.S. $14.95 Per Firearm One $9.99 Charge For Any Amount of Accessories Shipping Information. The M1 Carbine has the same stopping power as the M1 Thompson, but has better penetration. Too bad they didn’t retain the paperwork. From there, various internal mechanical bits were reinforced, but the primary operating action was the same. I would hate to lug that thing in the field, but the .45ACP is an excellent round for close quarters where the Thompson was designed to operate. http://www.patreon.com/ForgottenWeaponsCool Forgotten Weapons Merch! Buy The M1 Carbine: 13 (Weapon) Illustrated by Thompson, Leroy, Dennis, Peter, Gilliland, Alan (ISBN: 9781849086196) from Amazon's Book Store. Do you really believe that mattered at all as far as US Army small arms logistics? Otherwise it was exceptional for reliable function. This M1 Carbine model is a 45 ACP with a 16.5" barrel. The overall weapon was based on their well proven .45 ACP submachine gun, although the original .30 Carbine caliber rifle was based on the M1921/27 variants. Find magazines and accessories for sale online, in-stock and ready-to-ship. And no, dropping sidearms wasn’t in the cards either. KCI M1 Carbine .30 Magazine - 30Rd. Imagine the logistic nightmare of a firearm that looks like a Tommy Gun, but doesn’t take Tommy Gun magazines or ammunition. Tommy Guns were already in service with both ourselves and our allies. If that distinction was specified in the request, although apparently the M1 was originally intended to be select fire seemingly “an M1 smg, or select fire carbine” but this feature was omitted to speed up it’s development. Should have said, “same as any other cartridge that headspaces on the case mouth” ^__^. Hoodoo says: June 27, 2020 at 10:29 am. The logistical problem wasn’t the availability of .30 Carbine ammo, it was that .45 cal. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owen_Gun BSA guns are in the USA. The seller is “barrels-r-us” and is located in Westminster, Maryland. The grease guns were issued to tank crews and such into the 1980’s. AUTO ORDNANCE / THOMPSON. And demand the same in our own. M1 Carbine all the way.. When the US military released a request for what would become the M1 Carbine in 1940, the Auto-Ordnance Corporation offered up a Thompson submachine gun simply rechambered for the new .30 Carbine cartridge. The item “Thompson-Center Arms TC Contender 30 Carbine M1 10-inch Pistol Barrel Octagon” is in sale since Sunday, December 16, 2018. Seller: AncestryGunsLLC . One of those companies was Auto Ordnance, which did submit a “light” rifle design, but as a “just in case” also developed a .30 Carbine version of their Thompson SMG. You're a bad influence! Kahr Arms Auto-Ordnance M1 Carbine 30 Cal. The only significant expenditure of .45 ACP ammunition would have been by fire from .45 caliber SMG types. Both are fun to shot. The M1 carbine is a lightweight, easy to use, .30 caliber semi-automatic carbine that was a standard firearm for the U.S. military during World War II, the Korean War and well into the Vietnam War. Constructed of steel with an electro plated finish these magazines will withstand the toughest corrosive … Thompson Magazine M1 30 Carbine M1 Carbine 30 Carbine Round Steel Black Finish [MC3030] - Shop Ammo Freedom for all your magazines and accessories. Area Code: 601 . But the Blish lock does not work. Please verify the product based on the model #, UPC #, description and specifications before o Auto Ordnance Thompson M1 45 ACP 16" Barrel 30 Round Walnut Stock Blued Finish Semi Automatic Rifle TM1. So, no roll crimp allowed, just like on most semi-auto pistol cartridges. It does however have a Savage made TSMG 1928 in aluminium alloy. This item can be shipped to United States. down. That barrel length is certainly better suited to the .30 Carbine cartridge than the shorter ones of the various handguns chambered in it. Even if the prisoners turned out to be guards from a death camp used to exterminate Jews and Allied POWs? No. I’d expect it would be pretty bad in a .30 carbine chambered 1928 model. “Useless POS can’t even shoot a sniveling gun-less Kraut without blowing up in my hands!! Does that use the same gas piston principle that was eventually incorporated into the M14 rifle and M60 GPMG? Available Online. Man, imagine if they went further with their experimentation and made a .30 carbine grease gun. Yes, powder burn rate is also important. Pistol ammunition actually fired by pistols in WWII must have amounted to an insignificant drop in the bucket as far as small arms logistics is concerned. Even them. 30 CARBINE Ammo Can 4x Labels Ammunition 3x1.15 stickers. If memory serves well, the Thompson action is more or less pure blow-back with a forged receiver and bolt. “The stipulations for the new carbine included a weigh requirement of 5 pounds” Open bolt smgs out, closed bolt… Carbines, select fire or otherwise in. UPC : 602686422109. The Thompson M1 was used victoriously in battles throughout the world, ensuring its place for eternity as a legend among military firearms. Considering the scale American small arms production numbers during WWII, making the Thompson in .30 carbine Caliber would have simplified logistics of SMG with front line troops quite a bit. Model : M1 Carbine. This item can be shipped to United States. The M1 Carbine in DoD. To make more: Australian forces used Owen Machine Carbine 10%. Because the .30 US Carbine cartridge is classified with pistol cartridges. Auto-Ordnance - Thompson M1 Carbine | 45 ACP | 30 + 1| Model: M1SB | UPC: 602686281003 | THOMPSON M1 SBR 45CAL 10.5" 30+1 - Honey Badger Firearms Thompson M1 SBR, 10.5" Barrel, Semi-Automatic Carbine Shipped with one 30 round stick magazine Product Video: Thompson Rifles, Pistols and Accessories Steel … During World War II, various companies and weapons designers vied for the coveted contract that ultimately became the M1 Carbine in .30 Carbine. Logo Comes with … 1943 WORLD WAR II Era U.S. IBM M1 Carbine .30 Caliber Light Rifle WW2 Made by the INTERNATION BUSINESS MACHINES of … Auto Ordnance Iwo Jima Commemorative 1911 45 ACP, 5" Barrel, Steel Frame, Olive Drab, Distressed Copper, Engraved, 7rd . No, adding a second.30 cartridge that is not compatible with the established standard.30 chambering makes logistical complications and problems. If the smg fired pistol cartridges. I have fired a .30 Blackhawk, and there is nothing tame about the blast. https://books.google.pl/books?id=A-G6CwAAQBAJ&pg=PA8&lpg=PA8&dq=Light+Rifle+1940+requirement&source=bl&ots=Ni4Mgjg6wd&sig=mfKwgAhZH08k4K9n5vhF7QMPgbU&hl=pl&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiEjozcmOTPAhVrSZoKHbeoDKkQ6AEIIDAC#v=onepage&q=Light%20Rifle%201940%20requirement&f=false. This is a Restricted Firearm. The fact was, the M1 Carbine was developed for rear-echelon troops who couldn't carry Garands for whatever reason but needed more power & accuracy than the 1911's or 1917's. A .45 ACP carbine would easily have been effective up to 100 yards and probably even a bit farther, which in practice would have been enough for a PDW. Logistical complication? The Thompson weighs 16 pounds and for comparison the M1 Garand is 10 pounds. There was also other another design abandoned, due to not being in requirements – White rifle – which used wrong cartridge (.276 Pedersen) $2,335.00 . $1,115.99 $1,049.89. thus these are not mutually exclusive (weapon might be sub-machine gun and carbine at one time), is: “(…)weapon firing pistol cartridge(…)” Thompson mags?”. Quick view Compare Add to Cart. This entailed a new magazine, a receiver modified for the longer magazine, and a new barrel and bolt face – but the other Thompson parts could remain unchanged form the standard .45 ACP models. Find quality firearm mags for sale online at Guns.com. Quick view Compare Add to Cart. Enjoy what you read on Forgotten Weapons? Here is a.45 caliber semi-automatic version of the world's first and most famous military rifle. SKU : AOM130C2. The Thompson M1 was used victoriously in battles throughout the world, inscribing its place for all times as a legend among military firearms. 10% 90 Days. It is an intermediate round designed to be fired from the M1 carbine's 18-inch (458mm) barrel. Specifically, a new magazine and receiver was required to handle the longer and more powerful load. !” Many guys hated the M3 for not being made to last in the field. MidwayUSA carries a full line of 30 Carbine from all the major brands. Paratrooper Folding . “handloads” The three most well known small arms he used then were the Thompson Submachine Gun, the M1 Garand, and the .30 caliber M1 carbine. http://guns.wikia.com/wiki/1940_US_light_rifle_trials. The question is purely academic, since the .30 caliber Thompson probably didn’t work very well. should be: “(…)hypothetical .30CarbineGreaseGun(…)”. This item can be shipped to United States. Flat-Rate Shipping. It is constructed of steel with a black finish and has a 30round capacity. KCI USA. During World War II, various companies and weapons designers vied for the coveted contract that ultimately became the M1 Carbine in.30 Carbine. That was corrected in later production to properly function with loose rounds. The.30 Carbine cartridge is a straight-walled case and traditionally features a.30 caliber 110-grain full-metal-jacket bullet traveling around 1,900 fps. “rather than a carbine” That means actual ammunition expended by an Army Rifle Company during WWII required THREE different cartridges delivered all the way down to the squad level: .30 rifle, .30 carbine, and .45 pistol. M1 Carbine Pouch and Magazine Combo - Four 30rd mags and banana clip pouch w/dust covers Quick view Compare Add to Cart. While the M1 Garand rifle and the Thompson submachine gun were named for their respective designers, the M1 Carbine was not named for anyone in … I appreciate White’s persistence in sending his 1929-31 rifle into the 1940 trials, but obviously his .276 rifle would get rejected by the US Army as completely unsuitable for the light rifle specifications, which aside from caliber more importantly had to be light. Sub-machine gun = weapon firing pistol cartridge If you design the carbine to be select fire, you can also replace the Thompson with a cheaper design early on. The Thompson is completely controllable in full-auto mode. .357 Magnum primer is Small pistol, magnum OUT OF STOCK (0) Auto Ordnance - M1 Carbine Vengeance, 30 cal, 18\", Blade Fro. Posted: 11/25/2009 9:28:45 PM EST Carbine. The item “Thompson Center Model Contender 30 M1 Carbine Cal. The M1 carbine, formerly designated as the United States Carbine, Caliber .30, M1, is a lightweight carbine chambered for the .30 Carbine round first fielded by the United States during World War II. “efforts to replace it” Product Video: Thompson Rifles, Pistols and Accessories Steel case ammo warning for Thompson Long Guns (PDF) Here is a .45 caliber semi-automatic version of the world's first and most famous military rifle. Posted October 20, 2016 in Companies, Daily News, NFA / Suppressors / Class III by Nathan S with 24 CommentsTags: .30 carbine, .45 ACP, M1, prototypes, smg, Thompson, wwII. stopping power (apples to oranges). GI#: 101551583. The Thompson M1 was used victoriously in battles throughout the … Actually, it seems like folding-stock Reisings would have been ideal for issuing as last-ditch weapons to tank crews. Available Online. 7.62×33 mm M1 carbine ammo 30 carbine, Guns tactical, Hand. which was in fact sub-machine gun. Flat-Rate Shipping. Originally, they intended the M1 Carbine to be selective fire (original specs 1 Oct 1940, with first tests planned for 1 February 1941). Shooting and showing the Auto Ordnance Thompson M1 A1 in SBR configuration. 4.6 out of 5 stars 28. M1 Carbine in combat during WWII in the Pacific theatre. N1Rampage. The rimless .30 Carbine (7.62x33mm) was originally designed to fire a .30 caliber, 110gr full metal jacket bullet at just under 2,000 feet per second. And someone bent on machinegunning unarmed prisoners has questionable judgement and needs to be disarmed anyway! Enter your email address to receive notifications of new posts by email. Out of Stock × Out of stock. Buy a 30 M1 Carbine online. Very Low Stock. FREE Delivery on your first order of items shipped by Amazon. This magazine is for your Thompson M1 30 Carbine carbine. The M1 Thompson is a Sub-Machine Gun chambered with the .45 ACP pistol round and is featured in the Day of Defeat series. During the late 19th Century Ethiopia was a bit unique in that it retained its sovereignty during what is known as the “Scramble for Africa” by the European colonial powers. Reply. A carbine, either select fire or semi-auto only in .45 ACP would have been sufficient for the job. Henry Peabody was one of the less-recognized American firearms designers. Even Fairbairn, the guru of point-shooting, suggests that two hand shooting should be default…IF … But if we assume that the .30 Thompson DID work and it WAS adapted, then wartime production of the Thompson SMG would have been in .30 carbine rather than .45 ACP. Sadly the Pattern Room ( now the NFC ) does not have a 0.30 carbine Thompson or any of the BSA ones in 9mm,all five of the The Thompson M1 was used victoriously in battles throughout the world, inscribing its place for all ti... Qty available: BACKORDER . The single feed magazines were a pain. If you want handload wouldn’t be rimmed cartridge better choice, as it headspace on rim (overall length is not critical)? OUT OF STOCK (0) Thompson TM1C1 M1 Carbine Tanker Semi-Automatic 45 … “it would have been quite good.” Sell your 30 M1 Carbine for FREE today on GunsAmerica! http://ww2.rediscov.com/spring/full/1565B-JPG633536159473833429.jpg. (both conditions are necessary but not sufficient) Replacing pistols… Replacing rifles. At the beginning of World War II, the average production cost for an M1 carbine was approximately $45, about half the cost of an M1 rifle at approximately $85 and about a fifth of the cost of a Thompson submachine gun at approximately $225. Goodnight he he. Also, the rate of fire for the M1 is dependent on the user's trigger-pulling capabilities. The problems with the M3 were bending of the ratchet lever that cocked the bolt and accidentally denting the receiver enough to jam the bolt. Did this use “Blish lock” like the .45 ACP version? It is a light rifle round designed to be fired from the M1 carbine's 18-inch (458 mm) barrel. is: “(…)hypothetical(…)” Auto Ordnance Thompson M1 45 ACP 16" Barrel 30 Round Walnut Stock Blued Finish Semi Automatic Rifle TM1. $35.79. The M1 Carbine was developed as a light rifle, chambered for.30 pistol weight ammunition to deliver accurate semi automatic fire from a 15 round detachable. warreplica WWII US M1A1 Thompson Buttstock Oiler / M1 Carbine Oiler - Reproduction. Roughly you could buy 5 M3’s for the price of one Thompson. Without a locking mechanism one could expect lots of incomplete cartridge combustion and powder burns on the off hand… or am I wrong? for .45 ACP is 0.737 10cm shorter than the Haenel rifle, so an assualt carbine like an M4 stock extended. It worked well but due to the war effort was found expensive for mass production and its weight defied the concept of a Light Rifle. Paratrooper Folding . OUT OF STOCK (0) Auto Ordnance M1 Carbine .30 Carbine Black Folding/Collapsible . Maybe it would have been quite good. 43. Classification conundrum. 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